Negative prompts for correct anatomy

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    • #8884
      AvatarAlexander
      Participant

        So, having been doing this for a while, and having been reading a lot around, I have noticed that there is a faction of SD users that swear, and very heatedly, that negative prompts for anatomic accuracy (those that mention what one does not want, like multiple fingers, bad hands, deformed, etc) are completely useless and the desirable results obtained are just observer bias or pure chance.
        Their rationale is that the models are trained on the descriptions of the images sampled and nobody puts things like deformed hands or multiple fingers in those descriptions, because they all sample desirable images. So, if you cannot search for “deformed hands” because no image of them exists, it stands to reason that you cannot EXCLUDE “deformed hands” either as they should not be recognisable by the AI.
        Having seen the images on which a number of LoRAs are trained, this seems true for LoRAs. But is it true for the checkpoint models as well?
        Or do the larger models have a way to parse this kind of parameter?

      • #8889
        AvatarAndrew
        Keymaster

          Negative prompts like “deformed, disfigured” can beautify images. We only need to test them in the positive prompt:

          SD uses a frozen CLIP language model from OpenAI. Although no one trains images using these keywords, it still knows what it means semantically.

          However, I don’t think they can fix fingers.

           

        • #10786
          AvatarMorfyum
          Participant

            andrew, they really look like our politicians here in germany 😉

            • #10823
              AvatarAndrew
              Keymaster

                o wow, a use case in the positive prompt… lol

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